This whole thing is tragic. Wow you watched Paradise Lost so they must be innocent! do you honestly think the abusively strict misskelley sr would teach his low iq son to deceive the police? He also confessed again after the trial was over and had been already convicted. If youre going to make these claims, back them up. Their only agenda was to make the most film as interesting as possible (and this unfortunately typically involves creative and misleading editorial decisions a problem not unique to the first PL doc but to all documentary films). Thank you so much for taking the time to post it. Are in, in the slightest way, up on the finer details of this case??? Now, that piece neglects to mention that Woodmansee was convicted of murdering a 5 year old boy in 1975 (but wasnt caught/convicted until 1983), and that, according to his journal, he sexually assaulted the boy before murdering him and stashing he body in a trunk in his basement. No denying the utter incompetence of the law enforcement involved though. I think we may never know who really killed those poor little boys the police botched the entire case. With influence and power comes responsibility. ), lol why do you engage idiots?? Ill be curious if they will try and profit from their stories (you know, all the bullshit theyve spouted over the years). Apart from that, the series also explores celebrity activism and the wave of satanic panic that arose in the town of West Memphis. It seems to me that 1. they could have confirmed/dismissed Damiens phone alibis on the 5th and 2. confirmed/dismissed Jessies confession(s) that other 2 called him before and right after the murders and a great big 3. could have proven which suspects and their friends/family were in contact with each other!!!! It means a lot. Glad to see that common sense still exists. The difference is when I became an adult I could look past it to see where Echols and his gang are guilty. He is a wolf in cheap Sherpa clothing loI Fair minded folk know that they were all guilty and gutless. Echols will take information he knows about that night to the grave and the public will never hear it, especially now that hes a free man. Opportunity: if the accused had a reliable alibi in 1993, then we wouldnt be talking about them right now. Were not talking about a couple teens or tweens who ran away, but three 8 year olds. The problem is that the tunnel-vision created by that history never allowed them to look anywhere else. Say does anyone know when Johnnie Depp received his homicide dick license? How does your assumption that they fit the profile of a school shooter support the idea they may be guilty? of Echols, Baldwin and Misskelly. I hate how everybody watches the documentaries and start saying stuff like you need to do more research, they are innocent and no evidence or my favorite you cant take Jesses coerced confession seriously he is retarted blah blah I actually am open to the animal predation theory on the young Byers boy because it is possible(however fortunate for the defence). If you are not a lawyer, and never have been in actual court, witnessing any trial, you are not entitle to make a legitimate comment. I think you have a point, he might get fed up with thelabel of retardation (especiallysince Echols is in the habit of calling him that retarded kid on national television). You are aware that Damien Echols wrote twice that he was HOMICIDAL on his SS disability forum just weeks before killing the little boys. johnny depp. overwhelming reasonable doubt. And I dont think they haveany problem whatsoever withcarrying this secret. And the girl mightve gotten him interested in dabbling with the occult, but I dont think thats of much importance, since he only ever superimposed thequasi-Satanic stuff on his already dangerous powder keg ofa psyche. If those boys did it there would have been DNA to prove it. [Ill give you a hint, you wont]. Thats the definition of a Reporter. I dont think a single person could have done this. Makes me question why did Johnny Depp rally around his release and commented the following This one Damien designed. Nov 21, 2020 Deepen your understanding of angels and magick in The Royal Science of Angels, a new online course from Damien Echols. He was raped in jail. Hardly surprising if some of the kids raised in such an environment ended up less than sane. If they could not, then the state would have had no reason to require releases (which, by the way, would never hold up if and when the WM3 actually were proven innocent). Scary precedent. He was only caught because he attempted to sexually assault and murder a paperboy in the early 80s, who was obviously lucky to escape with his life. Shit, back in the day. He is guilty. REALLY????????????? I tend to think the WM3 are innocent, but am not 100% sure. Are those enough reasons for you? Because, either we are ALL innocent until proven guilty or NONE of us are. I simply want to know how you came to the conclusion that fitting the profile of a school shooter can support the idea you think they are guilty. First the defense claim its some nutjob nicknamed Bojangles. why hide the crime if you are going to walk bloody into a restaurant? They look weird so that must be some sort of a red flag. Superficial charm, easily lies, no conscience, thinks himself superiorall of it. Unsolved puzzles intrigue me tho and I needed to fill in some blanks. Intelligent kid, bible belt, poor & uneducated parents, first & forbidden love, religious fanatics, fear, unresolved heartbreak, experimenting with the occult, hopelessness, anti-depressants, alcohol. -_-. Have to say I feel for all the families Justice for the victims would be Echols executed and the other two serving out their sentences. I know that it is only ONE of the reasons you think they are guilty. Former West Memphis Three convict turned movie actor and producer best known for his lead role in the documentary based on his life titled West of Memphis. You are all naive. It would be impossible to prove 21 years after the fact. Why hang with Lorri Davis when he can have his pick of groupies? They couldnt find him? Mostly from those schools that advertise during daytime tv, but I digress. Youll notice that those details were left out of the documentaries. Do you know him personally? I dont think he would have had any mental issues with a different family, different hood. Wasnt he diagnosed with degenerative psychosis and some form of schizophrenia? they could all be guilty, they could all be innocent, one or two may be guiltyno one knows except the killer(s) and the victims, and unfortunately the victims cant tell us. Were the 3 victims picked for a ritual killing connected to an occult way of thinking that would bring them some delusional power of some sort? I believe that those boys should have been let go long before now!!!!!!!!! They might turn on him for $$. While I tend to believe that many times overzealous law enforcement herds things along ( read: forces or scripts confessions) in this case, there is a chance they may have got it right. These guys grew up in jail. Echols used to live virtually straight across from the pipe bridge. Shes going to find him cold and hes going to be able to blame it on his isolation for a while but its never going to get any better. I was contacted by one of the victims family members, not the suspects. I believe they stumbled accross something(a secret). What does when they were born have anything to do with the possibility of them fitting the profile of a school shooter? Damien Echols is a wack job. On a clip of an episode of the David Letterman show shortly after the release of the movie Depp was in: Public Enemies Letterman asked Depp if he ever watched any of his films. I am greatly relieved that nobody here will ever have the slightest bit of power or influence over the future lives of these men. Well never know. I pray that every one gets a fair shake if they go to jail. Hi, everyone, I have a question. Sept. 26, 2018. My Trench-sense is tingling. he seems to be getting along just fine to me. Kind of like how OJ and Casey Anthony walked away? Welcome to the year 2012. jesse probably thought im not going down with these two weirdos. And I know of a place you can do some penance (for lack of a better word) if you are on facebook? I think you are the real killer. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Id be interested in knowing what you think. If you dont, youre not only nutty, but youd be considered a negligent parent. While they should have questioned Hobbs, its also important to note that none of his wifes relatives came forward any of the abuse theyve alleged in their declarations signed in 2009. !Stop watching there movies, buying there books, and lapping up everything they say or do as gospel. Damian Seth Azariah Echols: Bio Summary Famous As: son of Damien Echols I dont know how I missed this one, but less than a month after this post, another child murderer was released (early) from prison. The appeals on Baldwin and Miskelleys state post-conviction claims were dismissed as part of the plea agreement. Because Echols was a bit of an outcast? either way you look at it Innocent or Guilty it is time to let these boys become men and be let free. HBO has its take, believers of the justice system have theirs. and we are talking about his violent past and all that disturbing past that shadowed him. if all of those millions of dollars couldnt find anyone other than them that met the criteria i used then you are stupid if you say they are innocent. I agree about JMBs IQ not being very far off from Misskellys. Its repulsive how these bastards not only got away with murdering innocent kids but Echols is living in the lap of luxuryCall me crazy but the way Hollywood has been all over these monsters,,,glorifying them and propagating propaganda proclaiming their innocence has me suspiciousAlso the stepfather of one of the little boys whos supporting them needs to be shot,..period. I think they would have been prolific school shooters. REALLY??? 2, 1994) (photo: Lisa Waddell, The . Yes, it is in the majority of cases, just not this one. Falsetestimony nothing to link them to the murder. His vids are super interesting and very compelling! This article is beyond ignorant but then again, what do u expect from Terry Hobbs ( AKA Trench Reynolds ) He also lied about Alister Crowley and now emulates him in poses. community or Heavey Metal fans or supporters of the convicted offering any kind I think it was that, rather than anysignificant abilityofEcholss, that made the case what it is. In 1994, Damien was sentenced to death and . How can you possibly predict that any of these guys WOULD have been school shooters? I have been taken all over the place so farONE thing that really bothers me and I have yet to find an answer. Does it occur to any of you that a rational position would be that the trial was a travesty, that new evidence does add additional doubt, and yet that it is still impossible to be reasonably certain the WM3 are innocent? No witness, no DNA, no other physical evidence and none of them were at the scene of the murder at the time. You can not tell one is guilty because he fits the profile of a school shooter You need a proof, not feelingsThats it. I was an antisocial teenager who used to wear black and listen to Metallica also. Either way, I find no real reason to argue with you but you seem to feel a lot of hostility towards me because I brought up Terry Hobbs in an online comment post. A lot of them seem to think they know everything too. 1) He was rarely ever allowed out. Dont let HOLLYWOOD think for you, Link to Jesses confession to his lawyer February 8, 1994 A good analogy of this is the blatant attack of Christians who are accused of being bigots, sexists and racists. Looking forward to the documentary. Read More: Best True Crime Documentaries On Netflix. I think that the convicted sex offender, Martin, who actually provided a more accurate possible scenario for the way the crime went down as well as motive than Misskellys confession, is highly suspect. Did she take the HBO documenatary into account like I and many many others have all this time? Is there any recorded testimony of the witnesses or people who say they heard him talk about? You seem pretty nasty and judgemental (Reynolds). This scenario rang true for me. I didnt put words in your mouth. Im sorry that you couldnt grasp such a simple statement such as there are many similarities between Damien Echols and Eric Harris. and lets face it, those 3 californians who kept pushing for their release led by that brainless blonde kathy bakken..they strike me as the type of people who have a thing for serial killers..they probably have charles manson and john wayne gacy pictures and posters all over their rooms..stop the lying tonto..i mean! Echols has some serious underlying mental issues that I think are going to lead to an eventual decompensation and return to violent behavior. If you cant do the math on that then I cant help you. **I am not interested in any hearsay. I know im sending this late in the game but I dont know what the fuss is all about. Mr. Ramsey has countless hours of videos of police interrogating other acquaintances/coven members and he also has documentation on the case that proves there guilt such as exhibit 500 and more stuff in callahan8. Echols is a complete and utter psychopath. His partner Lorry is a film producer by profession. The shame of it is, those 3 little boys were completely forgotten in all the pageantry. There will always be people like this in the world. their own children also grieve the loss). I think Jessies memory was hampered by his consumption of Evan Williams the night of the murder and by his intentional desire to hide his full involvement in the crimes. Rollins is known for tilting at windmills a bit, but I really should have done my homework before helping these killers out with their legal bills. It shows a lot. I used to be one of their supporters. God help the kids that live near these murderers. He left out sooooo much more. If not for the occult aspect of Damian I doubt the celbs would have given a rats ass if the other two lived or died. THAT is how much I love and trust him. thats right, because you sheep cant believe anything unless it is spoon fed to you on tv. I am inclined to believe that the state of Arkansas would not have offerer them the Alford plea deal if they had a reason to believe the boys would have lost in a new trial. I am talking about 10 or more different stories the 3 combined have tried to use as a Alibi. found he did not fall off the edge of the earth, should he have been punished Lets see, how about his history of violence, his psychotic episodes, his multiple commitments to mental institutions, the animal abuse, his bragging about the murders, testifying how he would have committed the crimes, blowing kisses in the courtroom, Miskellys multiple confessions even after conviction, and his conviction being held up by the Arkansas Supreme Court multiple times. Yep, you got me. http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/joehb.html#jhb. Perhaps Jason Baldwin and Dylan Klebold wouldnt have been able to do what they did if they had not had access to fucking massive guns. So, it looks like this statement was given before the murders took place, huh? He was covered in mud and blood the eye witness told Mara Leveritt who wrote the Book Devils Knot I feel that its about time that they got freed!!!!! It's been nearly nine years since the West Memphis Three became free men again, and they're all now in their 40s. NOPE, its actually because it was a totally botched up case and in the end Arkansas had to face that they massively screwed up. why was he always caught in inconsistencies and lies? I think the filmmakers only became unambiguous supporters of the WM3s innocence AFTER high profile celebrities rallied to the WM3s cause. Their victims are dead Obviously there were school shootings prior to the late 1990s but they did not become the cultural phenomenon they are in this country until the late 90s with such shootings as Paducah, Jonesboro and of course Columbine. Constitutional error is not the same thing as a mistrial or a case going to trial based on faulty evidence. 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